Originally Posted by Linda Well I checked the company website and the brand I used last night does not have msg. Nonetheless, I'm going back to my usual salsa with only defineable and recognizeable ingredients. I wonder what "natural flavor" means to the average industrial food manufacturer . . . |
Because it is really hard to tell, we usually avoid products that contain natural flavors. Exceptions to this are Hellman's mayo and those that say things like "natural vanilla (or raspberry, rosemary, etc.) flavor." We buy the Hellman's because the Spectrum regular-fat organic mayo was just too expensive.
We make our own salsa with home-grown tomatoes, peppers, onions, etc., and can it in the summer. If we run out we buy Muir Glen salsa. It's tasty and available from our natural foods co-op and from Amazon.
Sorry about your headache. MSG headaches are no fun at all.
GardenMom
Natural flavor and spices is definitely the worst, IME ... almost always contain high amounts. Citric acid including citrate as in magnesium citrate or other supplements with citrate may or may not contain free glutamic acid. It's a bit of a coin toss. Even then, citric acid when it does contain free glutamic acid seems to have lower amounts of free glutamic acid as spices or natural flavor.
I pretty much gave up in that 95% of all processed foods contain MSG. The only question is how much they contain and reading the labels really won't tell you how much, IME. Also, the free glutamic acid found in liquid such as soups, protein powders, etc. are the worst. Definitely beware of those. They get into the blood stream and thus penetrate the blood brain barrier in much higher conentrations ... something along those lines. When eating free glutamic acid in solid food, it's more likely to lead to wanting to use the restroom ... causes your colon to spasm.
Here's a good list of free glutamic acid. I could be mistaken but for those in Europe, the European numbers containing free glutamic acid is much higher than posted at the bottom of this list.
Paradox,
I had to double check the book "Battling the "MSG myth" and while I didn't find the answer directly as there is so much contradictory information on that subject, from my understanding it's the barley that's almost always added to the wheat is the problem. For instance, when you go to the store and look at all the breads you'll see barley as the ingredient. Most flours but not all are the same ... barley is added. So techinically, you can cook with or make bread out of flour that doesn't contain barley and you'll be fine regarding not getting an msg reaction.
Also, I wouldn't doubt that there is small amounts of free glutamic acid that isn't bound in wheat. Just like meat juice or seaweed or mushrooms or tomatoes. But again, it's really the barley that's the problem. I could be mistaken but the reason why is the barley is breaking down the wheat creating free glutamic acid. Just like how fermenting something can create free glutamic acid. That's basically what barley is doing.
With that said, keep in mind that when reading labels on processed foods, when it says gluten, most likely it contains free glutamic acid/MSG ... the food industry is able to make free glutamic acid out of almost anything, lol.
I found the source regarding your question about gluten. Here you go.
That's awesome Jdp- thanks! I am starting to realize that there is really no way to avoid it unless I avoid all processed foods (including baked goods) altogether. It seems that there will always be critics of any particular type of diet- veggie vs. meat, raw vs. cooked, dairy or no dairy, fruit vs no fruit...etc etc. It becomes very difficult to actually figure out what to consume. I'm with you that we can't avoid msg completely, but I think it's enough to get rid of as much as is practical.
Hey Paradox,
What's interesting is that once you start eating normal food, food actually tastes a lot different. The blah foods before are more satisfying and the processed foods taste odd and a bit disgusting actually.
Same with fast food restaurants ... high amounts of free glutamic acid as well as others. Restaurants do the same.
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